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 | Bill Keiser
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2001-09-09 31701
Ran out of fuel, flushed air out of system. It won't start now. Are there any diesel troubleshooting FAQs around to help? Thanks.
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| Rick
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2001-09-09 31702
despite your best efforts if you ran it out of fuel and it will not start it is still air bound probably in the injectors themselves. good luck ....
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 | lsheaffer
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2001-09-09 31709
There are bleed screws that need to be opened. Can't give specifics without lnowing what tractor you have. ....
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| TomG
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2001-09-10 31714
The bleeding procedures described are for getting air out of the filter bowl and pump line. The procedure for my Ford 1710 is: With the fuel valve closed, open both bleed screws on the filter bowl and open the shut-off valve until air sops bubbling out the bleed ports. Then shut valve off and open the bleed port on the injector pump and open the valve until air stops bubbling out. The process may have to be repeated several times. This procedure does not necessarily clear air in the injector lines. Pump action will clear small amount of air in the injector lines but not larger amounts. Another procedure is described for clearing air from injector lines. The procedure involves loosening one injector line fitting at a time at the engine end and then cranking the engine until fuel bubbles out the fitting. There are warnings along with the procedure about the risks of loosening injector lines. Even with the engine off, fuel may be under 2000 lbs. pressure. That's enough pressure to puncture skin or put out an eye. There’s also the risk of the engine catching unexpectedly and pulling fingers into the fan belt pulley etc. This description might orient you somewhat, but bleeding really should follow a procedure specified in a manual and be done by persons who understand the safety issues. ....
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| Norm
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2001-09-10 31721
Hey Tom, is that bleeding the fuel lines or bleeding after the skin puncture? I have bled many times (skin puncture, that is) with out first reading a manual.... ;-) ....
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| TomG
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2001-09-11 31755
Norm: Is that for real? I read the warnings but never know what happens if you get a jet of high-pressure fuel at a finger. Most of my bleeding while wrenching has been from busted knuckles (rust and cheap tools I guess) I've learned to put things back together with grease on the threads in an effort of keep skin on the knuckles. I think anti-seize compound is a more modern method. ....
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| Norm
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2001-09-11 31762
Tom - no, sorry for my sense of humor. I was referring to bleeding in general, the kind you have fell victim to. I never (and hope to never) experienced an unscheduled injection. (I don't even like the scheduled ones!) ....
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| Norm
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2001-09-11 31763
ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE!! My little banter with TomG has prompted me to think that I don't really know what happens from hydraulic fluid injection either. We all see the warnings, but do any of us really understand the danger? I didn't. So I did a little research and found the article in the referenced link. Go to page 4 and read. I must say that I am a little shocked over the extent of damage that can occur. It is a little technical (medically) but I think most of us can get the gist of what they are saying.
Here are some highlights: gangrene, damage to nerves and blood vessels, if the fluid makes its way to a tendon or something similar with a sheath it can ride it quite a ways - there have been cases of injection at the finger and the required surgical removal of contaminated tissue extended all the way to the elbow. ....
Link: Alberta Occupational Medicine Newletter
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| lsheaffer
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2001-09-11 31766
I had a neighbor that tried finding a hyraulic leak with his finger. He got blood poisonning & almost lost his hand. He had problems for a long time because of it. ....
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